Comments on: A New Look and a Simple Church Video http://www.theologicalmusingsblog.com/2006/09/23/a-new-look-and-a-simple-church-video/ Random discussions about various topics, with an emphasis on simple church and other out-of-the-box thoughts. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:47:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Kansas Bob http://www.theologicalmusingsblog.com/2006/09/23/a-new-look-and-a-simple-church-video/#comment-802 Kansas Bob Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:33:08 +0000 http://www.theologicalmusingsblog.com/2006/09/23/a-new-look-and-a-simple-church-video/#comment-802 I like the new lookVery clean ... with tabs no less ... how original ... but annoying to have to enter two different anti-spam words before I could Post - do you really get that mmuch spam? I like the new lookVery clean … with tabs no less … how original … but annoying to have to enter two different anti-spam words before I could Post - do you really get that mmuch spam?

]]> By: Steve Sensenig http://www.theologicalmusingsblog.com/2006/09/23/a-new-look-and-a-simple-church-video/#comment-803 Steve Sensenig Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:21:50 +0000 http://www.theologicalmusingsblog.com/2006/09/23/a-new-look-and-a-simple-church-video/#comment-803 <strong>Kansas Bob</strong>, Thanks for the comment. I'm working on trying to figure out how to remove the anti-spam word from the first page. The reality is, this is two plugins competing with each other in WordPress! :) You can actually skip the first anti-spam word, though, and just wait until you are ready to actually submit your comment ("post" instead of "preview") to enter whatever anti-spam word is there. I'll hopefully have this resolved before too, too long. Thanks for reading. steve :) Kansas Bob, Thanks for the comment. I’m working on trying to figure out how to remove the anti-spam word from the first page. The reality is, this is two plugins competing with each other in WordPress! :) You can actually skip the first anti-spam word, though, and just wait until you are ready to actually submit your comment (”post” instead of “preview”) to enter whatever anti-spam word is there.

I’ll hopefully have this resolved before too, too long. Thanks for reading.

steve :)

]]> By: Alan Knox http://www.theologicalmusingsblog.com/2006/09/23/a-new-look-and-a-simple-church-video/#comment-817 Alan Knox Thu, 28 Sep 2006 04:14:14 +0000 http://www.theologicalmusingsblog.com/2006/09/23/a-new-look-and-a-simple-church-video/#comment-817 Steve, Thank you for the link to the "simple church" video. Since I do not know many of the people in the video (I have read Simson and have heard of the Dales), I was hoping you could answer a question for me. Please understand, I am not making a judgment, just asking a question based on an observation. Most of the people in the video are in favor of leaving the "institutional" church. Why do you think that they still associate themselves with "institutions"? (i.e. Almost all of the speakers in the videos were listed along with their "ministry.") Thanks, Alan Steve,
Thank you for the link to the “simple church” video. Since I do not know many of the people in the video (I have read Simson and have heard of the Dales), I was hoping you could answer a question for me. Please understand, I am not making a judgment, just asking a question based on an observation. Most of the people in the video are in favor of leaving the “institutional” church. Why do you think that they still associate themselves with “institutions”? (i.e. Almost all of the speakers in the videos were listed along with their “ministry.”)
Thanks,
Alan

]]> By: Steve Sensenig http://www.theologicalmusingsblog.com/2006/09/23/a-new-look-and-a-simple-church-video/#comment-819 Steve Sensenig Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:10:29 +0000 http://www.theologicalmusingsblog.com/2006/09/23/a-new-look-and-a-simple-church-video/#comment-819 <strong>Alan</strong>, that's a great question. I chuckled as I read it because many times I ask myself the same question! Like you, I was not familiar with many of the people in the video. I think Wolfgang Simson and Neil Cole were the only ones I was familiar with, and I had never even heard of some of these organizations. So I can't speak for them, but I will give you my take on it based on my own thoughts. "Institution", in and of itself, is not a bad thing. I think that there are legitimate reasons for people to form an "institution" in order to facilitate a particular work. So, for example, the people in these videos are part of ministries that have boards of directors, corporate offices, constitutions and bylaws, etc. I don't have a problem with that in and of itself. However, when it comes to the actual outworking of the Body of Christ, I am of the opinion that the institution gets in the way. It creates barriers, artificial separations, false senses of security, etc. etc. What are your thoughts, Alan? I know that you have explored many of the same thoughts on your blog, but are there areas of this that you could help me see another perspective? I so appreciate your blog and the biblical studies you have been doing (it's very refreshing to see someone who is just coming out of seminary and yet already is asking some tough questions of the institutional church), and look forward to hearing more from you on these topics. steve :) Alan, that’s a great question. I chuckled as I read it because many times I ask myself the same question! Like you, I was not familiar with many of the people in the video. I think Wolfgang Simson and Neil Cole were the only ones I was familiar with, and I had never even heard of some of these organizations. So I can’t speak for them, but I will give you my take on it based on my own thoughts.

“Institution”, in and of itself, is not a bad thing. I think that there are legitimate reasons for people to form an “institution” in order to facilitate a particular work. So, for example, the people in these videos are part of ministries that have boards of directors, corporate offices, constitutions and bylaws, etc. I don’t have a problem with that in and of itself.

However, when it comes to the actual outworking of the Body of Christ, I am of the opinion that the institution gets in the way. It creates barriers, artificial separations, false senses of security, etc. etc.

What are your thoughts, Alan? I know that you have explored many of the same thoughts on your blog, but are there areas of this that you could help me see another perspective? I so appreciate your blog and the biblical studies you have been doing (it’s very refreshing to see someone who is just coming out of seminary and yet already is asking some tough questions of the institutional church), and look forward to hearing more from you on these topics.

steve :)

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